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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-2475</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"How do I interact/engage with the bible"?

I read it.

I was actually surprised by the variety of the answers given to this question...since the bible is a collection of books/letters/etc, surely the only way to engage with it is to read it! But I guess we all struggle with reading the bible. Why? Most possibly because of three main reasons?

 - it doesn't make sense (at a literary level, at a story level, at a verse level, or perhaps even at a grammatical/syntactical level)

 - it doesn't seem relevant.

 - I've read this [chapter/verse/book] before, so whats the point of reading it again...

I've struggled with all of these since I started reading the scriptures. Random thoughts:

 - at a textual level, bibles like the NET Bible help make sense of the actual text. However, its so full of notes you can be quickly swamped and lose sense of the actual narrative and flow.

- reading background info on the relevant culture/history etc is really really helpful. In fact, my understanding and interest of the entire Old Testament has been transformed by reading N T Wright, who manages to pick out the threads of the meta-story. Now whenever I read, for example, Isaiah, I can understand the context of an awful lot of what is being said.

- Hebrew writing is very dense and compact, so there is so much contained within so little text. Its so easy to miss stuff. You can read a passage ten times and still stumble across things you never saw before. So for some books of the bible I just keep reading them again and again, until it makes more and more sense.

- its easy to lose the big picture when reading a long book, such as one of the major prophets. Again, I find that simply reading repeatedly, and scribbling notes in your bible, helps a lot.

So at the end of the day I am at the place where I am just repeatedly immersing myslef into the text.

My problem is not engaging with the bible per se, but this: "how do I let the text of scripture speak authoratively into my life? and "how do I grow closer to the Triune God through reading the text of scripture?" So maybe that is where everyone else is as well, and hence all the different responses...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How do I interact/engage with the bible&#8221;?</p>
<p>I read it.</p>
<p>I was actually surprised by the variety of the answers given to this question&#8230;since the bible is a collection of books/letters/etc, surely the only way to engage with it is to read it! But I guess we all struggle with reading the bible. Why? Most possibly because of three main reasons?</p>
<p> - it doesn&#8217;t make sense (at a literary level, at a story level, at a verse level, or perhaps even at a grammatical/syntactical level)</p>
<p> - it doesn&#8217;t seem relevant.</p>
<p> - I&#8217;ve read this [chapter/verse/book] before, so whats the point of reading it again&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve struggled with all of these since I started reading the scriptures. Random thoughts:</p>
<p> - at a textual level, bibles like the NET Bible help make sense of the actual text. However, its so full of notes you can be quickly swamped and lose sense of the actual narrative and flow.</p>
<p>- reading background info on the relevant culture/history etc is really really helpful. In fact, my understanding and interest of the entire Old Testament has been transformed by reading N T Wright, who manages to pick out the threads of the meta-story. Now whenever I read, for example, Isaiah, I can understand the context of an awful lot of what is being said.</p>
<p>- Hebrew writing is very dense and compact, so there is so much contained within so little text. Its so easy to miss stuff. You can read a passage ten times and still stumble across things you never saw before. So for some books of the bible I just keep reading them again and again, until it makes more and more sense.</p>
<p>- its easy to lose the big picture when reading a long book, such as one of the major prophets. Again, I find that simply reading repeatedly, and scribbling notes in your bible, helps a lot.</p>
<p>So at the end of the day I am at the place where I am just repeatedly immersing myslef into the text.</p>
<p>My problem is not engaging with the bible per se, but this: &#8220;how do I let the text of scripture speak authoratively into my life? and &#8220;how do I grow closer to the Triune God through reading the text of scripture?&#8221; So maybe that is where everyone else is as well, and hence all the different responses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan McFadzean</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan McFadzean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rupert, I continuously struggle with this. Without a theological background or a "Christian family upbringing" I always feel that I never know enough (man, I even use the contents page still.......). I take a pretty simple approach - I just read it. Sometimes I use daily notes, right now I'm just reading through Acts, thinking through a chapter a day. Every day, it flags up things I don't understand (Acts 8 being today's example) but I guess that's a good thing.

I've had ten years of being taught remember context, think it through, listen to what you are taught and check check and check again. The problem is, it becomes so intellectual that I can shut out the heart and the Holy Spirit's prmptings and voice. Sometimes I find The Message helpful but then I hear that intellectual voice saying "it's a paraphrase so you can't trust everything it says". Which is annoying!

I fail miserably at memorisation, probably due to lack of effort. 

Looking forward to you carrying on this series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupert, I continuously struggle with this. Without a theological background or a &#8220;Christian family upbringing&#8221; I always feel that I never know enough (man, I even use the contents page still&#8230;&#8230;.). I take a pretty simple approach - I just read it. Sometimes I use daily notes, right now I&#8217;m just reading through Acts, thinking through a chapter a day. Every day, it flags up things I don&#8217;t understand (Acts 8 being today&#8217;s example) but I guess that&#8217;s a good thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had ten years of being taught remember context, think it through, listen to what you are taught and check check and check again. The problem is, it becomes so intellectual that I can shut out the heart and the Holy Spirit&#8217;s prmptings and voice. Sometimes I find The Message helpful but then I hear that intellectual voice saying &#8220;it&#8217;s a paraphrase so you can&#8217;t trust everything it says&#8221;. Which is annoying!</p>
<p>I fail miserably at memorisation, probably due to lack of effort. </p>
<p>Looking forward to you carrying on this series.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-1864</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In thinking about your question about engaging with the Bible and what has been profitable (answer the question!),  I think those things that appeal to, or draw on, both left and right sides of the brain have been most affecting and effective.  I would have previously described it as word and image or study and meditation but Walter Wink also suggests left and right hemispheres of the brain.

Having both an image plus some text where I can wander around an image (photo, imaginary object, painting, metaphor from the text) as well as dwell on the words in their context opens up different things to me.  Having both left brain - analysis, study, logic and right brain activities- wonder, meditation, integration and harmony - seem to provide a good dynamic. Being by inclination and education more analytical I note with interest the pull towards art, poetry and just letting a scripture be and now see the hand of God in that.

Gerard Hughes noted that every experience is recorded in the body which suggests to me that for the Holy Spirit through the Bible to engage fully with me must also engage at a body level, where memories and personal experiences are held, so work with clay, the figures in Godly Play (see above) and touch should at some point come into play.

Practically, if I have one verse for a week and can dip in and out of it wherever I am then it seems to act like a pinboard for God to stick things on to it eg further readings, conversations,  connections to other Bible verses etc.

I think that Francis Frangipane has a good way of operating.  He has/had a set Bible reading plan for each day.  Once in it he would feel free to stop and deviate for that day and then return to the point he left off in the following day's reading.  Wandering and momentum.

PS I think differing forms of Bible 'work' that recognise different personality types is a good step ahead too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In thinking about your question about engaging with the Bible and what has been profitable (answer the question!),  I think those things that appeal to, or draw on, both left and right sides of the brain have been most affecting and effective.  I would have previously described it as word and image or study and meditation but Walter Wink also suggests left and right hemispheres of the brain.</p>
<p>Having both an image plus some text where I can wander around an image (photo, imaginary object, painting, metaphor from the text) as well as dwell on the words in their context opens up different things to me.  Having both left brain - analysis, study, logic and right brain activities- wonder, meditation, integration and harmony - seem to provide a good dynamic. Being by inclination and education more analytical I note with interest the pull towards art, poetry and just letting a scripture be and now see the hand of God in that.</p>
<p>Gerard Hughes noted that every experience is recorded in the body which suggests to me that for the Holy Spirit through the Bible to engage fully with me must also engage at a body level, where memories and personal experiences are held, so work with clay, the figures in Godly Play (see above) and touch should at some point come into play.</p>
<p>Practically, if I have one verse for a week and can dip in and out of it wherever I am then it seems to act like a pinboard for God to stick things on to it eg further readings, conversations,  connections to other Bible verses etc.</p>
<p>I think that Francis Frangipane has a good way of operating.  He has/had a set Bible reading plan for each day.  Once in it he would feel free to stop and deviate for that day and then return to the point he left off in the following day&#8217;s reading.  Wandering and momentum.</p>
<p>PS I think differing forms of Bible &#8216;work&#8217; that recognise different personality types is a good step ahead too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rupert&#8217;s Blog &#187; Parables of the Kingdom - The Unmerciful Servant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rupert&#8217;s Blog &#187; Parables of the Kingdom - The Unmerciful Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will write a follow up to a previous post, engaging with Scripture, soon. I you haven&#8217;t done so, so drop a comment on what you do to interact with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me too - altho i'm hoping to post my review today  :cool:</description>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-1855</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me one of the joys of recent times with the bible has been exploring the river of the story rather than individual drops - it has been exciting for instance to think of the gospel as having more parts that just fall/salvation or to think of mission in terms of God's unfolding work of searching for and gathering people who will bear his image/name/modus operandi.

I like the sweep of the story and how it influences, engages, challenges and changes the other stories that also compete for a place of dominance as the narratives of our lives...

I agree with Mak that communal exploration is exciting and eye opening - it gives renewed meaning to being people of the book.  It is also powerful to read with other traditions and the Abrahamic faiths like judaism and islam - altho i have only read about the last way of doing so but from what I read it does sound profound (for instance it is not about consensus and disagreeing well is a higher value than being right and dirty).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me one of the joys of recent times with the bible has been exploring the river of the story rather than individual drops - it has been exciting for instance to think of the gospel as having more parts that just fall/salvation or to think of mission in terms of God&#8217;s unfolding work of searching for and gathering people who will bear his image/name/modus operandi.</p>
<p>I like the sweep of the story and how it influences, engages, challenges and changes the other stories that also compete for a place of dominance as the narratives of our lives&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with Mak that communal exploration is exciting and eye opening - it gives renewed meaning to being people of the book.  It is also powerful to read with other traditions and the Abrahamic faiths like judaism and islam - altho i have only read about the last way of doing so but from what I read it does sound profound (for instance it is not about consensus and disagreeing well is a higher value than being right and dirty).</p>
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		<title>By: Makeesha</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-1852</link>
		<dc:creator>Makeesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure we've cracked it per se. But we're taking a stab at it with our rhythm of NAKED www.thenakedchurch.net click on NAKED?

We are just now implementing this more seriously into our community context. It's really just come into fruition in the context of relationship and we hope to continue to grow it in that way. Those in the "core" commit to living the rhythm and we as a whole community live it out as community and in that way we disciple through modeling - by example.

as me in a year and I'll tell you how I feel about it then ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure we&#8217;ve cracked it per se. But we&#8217;re taking a stab at it with our rhythm of NAKED <a href="http://www.thenakedchurch.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenakedchurch.net</a> click on NAKED?</p>
<p>We are just now implementing this more seriously into our community context. It&#8217;s really just come into fruition in the context of relationship and we hope to continue to grow it in that way. Those in the &#8220;core&#8221; commit to living the rhythm and we as a whole community live it out as community and in that way we disciple through modeling - by example.</p>
<p>as me in a year and I&#8217;ll tell you how I feel about it then <img src='http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: rupert</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-1851</link>
		<dc:creator>rupert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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I think we have often seen the Bible as a manual for living rather than book in which i am drawn towards discovering and encountering myself and God.  Radical thoughts!
Thanks Andrew.  Do you have any ways in which you particularly allow the Bible to point you?
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I think we have often seen the Bible as a manual for living rather than book in which i am drawn towards discovering and encountering myself and God.  Radical thoughts!<br />
Thanks Andrew.  Do you have any ways in which you particularly allow the Bible to point you?<br />
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		<title>By: rupert</title>
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		<dc:creator>rupert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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Kirsty - what you are doing with the kids is great, and such a good way of getting them to engage with scripture.
Perhaps we should do it with the adults sometime!
Thanks for telling us more of what you are doing.
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Kirsty - what you are doing with the kids is great, and such a good way of getting them to engage with scripture.<br />
Perhaps we should do it with the adults sometime!<br />
Thanks for telling us more of what you are doing.<br />
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		<title>By: rupert</title>
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		<dc:creator>rupert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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Brad - thanks for the comment.
The divine hours look great.  I have friends who use the Northumbria Community Office each day.
http://www.northumbriacommunity.org/
I use another one, which i will mention in a post in a couple of days.
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Brad - thanks for the comment.<br />
The divine hours look great.  I have friends who use the Northumbria Community Office each day.<br />
<a href="http://www.northumbriacommunity.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.northumbriacommunity.org/</a><br />
I use another one, which i will mention in a post in a couple of days.<br />
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		<title>By: rupert</title>
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		<dc:creator>rupert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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that's been on my "to buy" list ... it looks great.
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that&#8217;s been on my &#8220;to buy&#8221; list &#8230; it looks great.<br />
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		<title>By: rupert</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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Mak - thanks again for the comment.
What a great picture of engaging with the Bible as community.

How do you hold each other accountable to living the scriptures?  I don't think we have ever really cracked that one!
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Mak - thanks again for the comment.<br />
What a great picture of engaging with the Bible as community.</p>
<p>How do you hold each other accountable to living the scriptures?  I don&#8217;t think we have ever really cracked that one!<br />
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder (no pun intended Kirsty) why I seem to be frequently turning back to 2 questions.  First, why am I reading my Bible?  The second, what is the Bible?  I guess they come together to a single point: Toward what am I/are we being pointed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder (no pun intended Kirsty) why I seem to be frequently turning back to 2 questions.  First, why am I reading my Bible?  The second, what is the Bible?  I guess they come together to a single point: Toward what am I/are we being pointed?</p>
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		<title>By: Kirsty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirsty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a note on what we are doing at kids work to help children engage with the bible.   It's called Godly Play, its a form of storytelling that really engages the children with the story using props, figures, felt, boxes all sorts of fun things.   The idea is the focus is on the story not on the teller, the story is presented and then you help the children 'Wonder' by asking questions like 'was this person happy?'  'I wonder what this persons name is?'  'i wonder where you are in the story?'.   The teller never gives their opinion nor are they directive in any way - the children talk about how the story touched them, they are not told what it means or what they should think.    We are doing the parables just now too.   Godly Play is particularly suited to parables as didn't Jesus usually just tell the story, often using familiar images,ideas and leave it there for people to work it our for themselves?
Adults engage well with this too, it helps you move into the story, personally engaging with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a note on what we are doing at kids work to help children engage with the bible.   It&#8217;s called Godly Play, its a form of storytelling that really engages the children with the story using props, figures, felt, boxes all sorts of fun things.   The idea is the focus is on the story not on the teller, the story is presented and then you help the children &#8216;Wonder&#8217; by asking questions like &#8216;was this person happy?&#8217;  &#8216;I wonder what this persons name is?&#8217;  &#8216;i wonder where you are in the story?&#8217;.   The teller never gives their opinion nor are they directive in any way - the children talk about how the story touched them, they are not told what it means or what they should think.    We are doing the parables just now too.   Godly Play is particularly suited to parables as didn&#8217;t Jesus usually just tell the story, often using familiar images,ideas and leave it there for people to work it our for themselves?<br />
Adults engage well with this too, it helps you move into the story, personally engaging with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Makeesha</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator>Makeesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>along those lines brad, I received a copy of the condensed version of Tickles' hours and it's really a neat resource to have on hand. This reminds me that I need to review that book actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>along those lines brad, I received a copy of the condensed version of Tickles&#8217; hours and it&#8217;s really a neat resource to have on hand. This reminds me that I need to review that book actually.</p>
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		<title>By: brad brisco</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to pray the Divine Hours online at www.explorefaith.org and am just now reading The Sacred Way by Tony Jones. I am finding it to be extremely helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to pray the Divine Hours online at <a href="http://www.explorefaith.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.explorefaith.org</a> and am just now reading The Sacred Way by Tony Jones. I am finding it to be extremely helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Makeesha</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-1834</link>
		<dc:creator>Makeesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 02:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, that's a really good issue to wrestle with. I think it has to come from a holistic place of community where we are engaging with and wrestling with the scriptures, worshiping God through the scriptures, talking about it, and working through how we're going to live it and then hold one another accountable for living it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, that&#8217;s a really good issue to wrestle with. I think it has to come from a holistic place of community where we are engaging with and wrestling with the scriptures, worshiping God through the scriptures, talking about it, and working through how we&#8217;re going to live it and then hold one another accountable for living it.</p>
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		<title>By: rupert</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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Mak - thanks for the comment and for the additions, which are rather big ommisions on my part!
I also find conversation about scripture to be one of the main ways of learning.  This has certainly changed for me over the years - when i was a young christian, sermons were probably the primary way in which i learnt.

One of the things i am interested in is how much our interactions with Scripture really bring about change in us...
... do we meet with God in Scripture...
How can we help people be changed by God, as they encounter Him in the Bible?
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Mak - thanks for the comment and for the additions, which are rather big ommisions on my part!<br />
I also find conversation about scripture to be one of the main ways of learning.  This has certainly changed for me over the years - when i was a young christian, sermons were probably the primary way in which i learnt.</p>
<p>One of the things i am interested in is how much our interactions with Scripture really bring about change in us&#8230;<br />
&#8230; do we meet with God in Scripture&#8230;<br />
How can we help people be changed by God, as they encounter Him in the Bible?<br />
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		<title>By: Gnosh results for lectio divina</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Makeesha</title>
		<link>http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/08/20/engaging-with-scripture/#comment-1825</link>
		<dc:creator>Makeesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to do it all but more often than not I study. Read, research, take notes, dig deep. 

I have another 2 for you - "pray" the Bible and engage in community through dialog. 

As for what has had the biggest impact, I'm not really sure I can say - probably engaging through dialog, through community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to do it all but more often than not I study. Read, research, take notes, dig deep. </p>
<p>I have another 2 for you - &#8220;pray&#8221; the Bible and engage in community through dialog. </p>
<p>As for what has had the biggest impact, I&#8217;m not really sure I can say - probably engaging through dialog, through community.</p>
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