Comments on: What is Missional Church? - Part 2 http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/ Random wonderings about God and Life Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:22:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Paul http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/#comment-921 Paul Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:11:59 +0000 http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/#comment-921 oops some of the arrows fell out, annoying :mad: oops some of the arrows fell out, annoying :mad:

]]> By: Paul http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/#comment-920 Paul Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:11:04 +0000 http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/#comment-920 Yes, i've been thinking about a whole series of diagrams, which i'll try and post when my brain finishes crunching on them. I think the Trinity => world => Me is very much a john 3:16-17 type summary Clearly there has to be a me point as well so maybe God me community/kingdom of GodGod God is active in the worl, so that salvation is not only in the church God => world => people of God But clearly the dream would be God kingdom God/world Yes, i’ve been thinking about a whole series of diagrams, which i’ll try and post when my brain finishes crunching on them.

I think the Trinity => world => Me is very much a john 3:16-17 type summary

Clearly there has to be a me point as well so maybe

God me community/kingdom of GodGod

God is active in the worl, so that salvation is not only in the church
God => world => people of God

But clearly the dream would be
God kingdom God/world

]]> By: rupert http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/#comment-915 rupert Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:41:35 +0000 http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/#comment-915 <img src="http://www.cce.uk.net/ims/Rupert.jpg" alt="Rupert" WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=75 HSPACE=15 VSPACE=10 ALIGN=RIGHT /> <FONT color=blue>Paul - i really agree. Omitting God from the diagram does seem a bit of a faux pas! :sad: I was wondering a pretty similar thing: where would a "God" circle go? All around? Or just around "ME"? There is still something of an individual response I think - but a much greater emphasis that we find our identity in community. So i think there is probably still a place for me, but what i like in the second diagram is that we are in community. I guess the balance is still retaining the individual and community together. What do you think? </FONT> Rupert Paul - i really agree. Omitting God from the diagram does seem a bit of a faux pas! :sad: I was wondering a pretty similar thing: where would a “God” circle go? All around? Or just around “ME”?

There is still something of an individual response I think - but a much greater emphasis that we find our identity in community. So i think there is probably still a place for me, but what i like in the second diagram is that we are in community.

I guess the balance is still retaining the individual and community together. What do you think?

]]> By: Paul http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/#comment-905 Paul Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:26:50 +0000 http://rupertward.cce.uk.net/2007/04/18/what-is-missional-church-part-2/#comment-905 thanks for your kind words on my other centred post :grin: For all the helpfulness of the diagrams i still wonder how far we actually do move past ourselves as an individual - it's interesting that all of them start with ME. I wonder what it would look like if we reversed the first diargram, maybe God => others/world => me To me that would have a more missional feel about it. thanks for your kind words on my other centred post :grin:

For all the helpfulness of the diagrams i still wonder how far we actually do move past ourselves as an individual - it’s interesting that all of them start with ME.

I wonder what it would look like if we reversed the first diargram, maybe

God => others/world => me

To me that would have a more missional feel about it.

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